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Post by PeteTheHair » Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:51 pm

garlando wrote:...because Windows is not nessisarily the quickest or best OS out there but it is the EASIEST to use, you dont need to learn anything to use it.
1) Put in OS CD
2) Plug in joysick, game pad etc
3) Insert game CD
4) Play
Those who know me well may find this a little... expected, as such, but...

Should I have to learn how it works to use the damn thing???

This is exactly why windows is mainstream. It makes life easy for you. I don't want to have to recompile my OS kernel to get a goddamn sound driver loaded. I don't want to have to spend 3 hours hunting through Google to find out how to broadcast to a shoutcast server from XMMS (evening Nick ;) ). I don't want to have to spend 2 hours cursing at my OS to put a standard wireless network card into AdHoc mode (evening Mark ;) ).

There's an old joke about comparing Windows to a car, which you have to restart every 50 miles or something. At least I don't need to understand the intrinsic principles of the internal combustion engine to drive a car. This is the difference. This is why MS beat down most other packages. Their software is simply easier to use. There will always be a Linux/whatever contingent, in the same way that there are people who spend their spare time tuning engines and souping up car stereos. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but most people just want to buy a car and be able to drive it away, regardless of the roads they happen to be running on. Linux doesn't do that (yet), so I'll continue to more than happy using Windows.
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Post by biggles » Fri Nov 01, 2002 12:17 am

i agree!

use ms, less headaches, less money, more work, less time to use comp, dont have to learn stuff, more time to use computer.

i like eggs:>

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Post by ZiK » Fri Nov 01, 2002 12:56 am

/me claps

that was a very good explanation pete :) well done

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Post by uatec » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:11 am

less headaches??

it just took me 15 minutes to get my admin account back becuase XP thinks it knows best and hid it.. I had to logon remotely and then reposses the logon.
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Post by garlando » Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:26 am

PeteTheHair wrote: Should I have to learn how it works to use the damn thing???

This is exactly why windows is mainstream. It makes life easy for you.
This was what i was trying to say :|
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Post by fabian » Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:44 am

soory but windows did not become the widdestly used OS for nothing.
why do all the games come out for windows before any other system?
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Post by biggles » Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:45 am

you have 15minutes to set up an admin account, and a user account on linux, your times starts, NOW.


*psst* no gui

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Post by Kulgan » Fri Nov 01, 2002 11:16 am

garlando wrote:In the end it is up to the consumer what he/she wants to do. Just because MS have included some software with their main product it doesnt mean you HAVE to use it. You can easily install Netscape, Lotus or Word Perfect on machines running windows.
That wasn't my point - my point is that you have to have buy Windows in order to use IE. Not the other way around.

As I said before - I have no objection to Microsoft making good products. I do however still object to their business practices.
And to put things in perspective, my OS is Windows 2000. That's on my main, everyday machine. However - my server is 100% Linux, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Why? Because I like Linux for servers. But Windows is still the best general use OS, and I don't think anyone's trying to say otherwise...

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Post by uatec » Fri Nov 01, 2002 11:27 am

biggles, that aint really the hardest thing to do....

unless it is a 286, then it takes 15 mins to boot... :D
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Post by biggles » Fri Nov 01, 2002 12:07 pm

my freind is nuts on linux, he had loads of linux machines, hes going to make a server, once he learns ip masquerading, i think hes a dick. windows is plug and go, and thats why it will continue to make stupid amount of money.

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Post by Spey » Mon Dec 02, 2002 11:24 am

/me digs out A600

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Post by DjArcas » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:39 am

uatec wrote:less headaches??

it just took me 15 minutes to get my admin account back becuase XP thinks it knows best and hid it.. I had to logon remotely and then reposses the logon.

Big deal. It took me 6 weeks to get my ISDN router working under Linux. Eventually I said 'fuck this', then got it going under Windows, with ICS. Including reboot time, took me 10 mins. Appreciate Windows for what it is, don't diss it for what it's not.
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Post by uatec » Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:10 pm

you may be having these problems now and in the past, and i admit, linux is not, on the whole a top notch operating system all around. But it is getting there. I am running suse 8.2pro on my laptop at the moment. It is really easy to install stuff.. Just click the name of the programme you want to install, insert the CD, wait and it is done. or if you download it, click on the RPM, wait, and its done...

wifi was easy to setup on my lappy, as was routing between wifi and my proper lan.

Linux might not be as good a windows for ease of use, but it is definately getting there.
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Post by eclipse » Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:20 am

OMG I made this thread a year ago

LET IT DIE!

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Post by uatec » Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:46 am

this thread started off as you saying the table layout should be changed, and look where it is now...
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Post by eclipse » Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:47 pm

I suppose it's been the most prominent issue since then...

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Re: just a thought, but you want thoughts right?

Post by DjArcas » Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:41 pm

eclipse wrote:just a thought...
how about laying the tables out in a way other than in rows, so that you create more socialising? say lay the tables out in a BIIG square or something I dunno. and how about a nice area under the projector or something, with sofa and many bean bag things.

just an idea.

Free milkshake would be super cool ;) but I don't think you'll go ahead with that idea.
We've got lots and lots more hubs and nice long cables and adaptors, so we'll be able to spread out a bit more for projectorgames - I thoroughly agree that we should try and get some sort of lounging around area there :)
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Post by ZiK » Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:45 pm

yeah, its not like there is no room, and infact there are sofas and shit there afaicr.

infact, wasn't it used as a sorta lounging area already?

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Post by mid_gen » Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:44 am

It all depends on what furniture is stacked up waiting for car-boot salage really :)

We're usually good for at least one 3-piece suite though.

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Post by DjArcas » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:28 pm

yeah, no sofas is bad when wanting to watch films. Put '6 inflatable sofas' on SG's shopping list...
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